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Da Vinci Code News

Out of 106 critical reviews 18 were positive giving The Da Vinci Code a 17% rating at Rotten Tomatoes (link provided below).

What lessons can we learn from this as Christians?

  • First, given that the movie is receiving reviews the equivalent of "Scary Movie 3" and this year's remake of the "Pink Panther", if Christians had spent their time evangelizing instead of creating publicity and organizing protests against this movie, it would have hit the box office and been gone in two weeks with no one the wiser.
  • Second, if the movie does well at the box office, it will have "Christians" to thank for those ticket sales.
  • Third, if you're a Christian who launched a personal crusade, isn't it time that you got into the scripture and determined what God truly wants us to do with our time?

Rotten Tomatoes – The Da Vinci Code

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May 19, 2006 - Posted by | Da Vinci Code News

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  1. Not sure what you mean by a “personal crusade.” Within the body of Christ, we have our specific functions. And if that “calling” becomes what someone might call a “personal crusade,” maybe he/she doesn’t know the whole story behing why a person does what he/she does.

    God has called me to a ministry of reconcilliation in which I stand between seemingly dissimilar people while they figure out what they have in common, not how dissimilar they are. Often the call involves the breaking down of racism. I have this ministry because God wants me to have it. I will change courses on what some may see as a “personal crusade” only when God tells me to do so. Those who find verses to correct me don’t know much about mysticism, nor, all too often, do they want to. The Bible is the living word of God, as is Jesus, but is often used as source of proof-texting to prove others wrong. “Study to show thyself approved” doesn’t involve only the Bible.

    Comment by Helen Losse | May 19, 2006 | Reply

  2. Helen,

    You will have to fill me in a little on your variety of mysticism when you have time!

    I am not quite sure I understand your last sentance as II Tim 2:15 is referring the Bible. Is there something in that passage that I missed?

    -j

    Comment by bereans | May 19, 2006 | Reply

  3. Be glad to, Jack. But not tonight. Long week.

    Comment by Helen Losse | May 20, 2006 | Reply

  4. I just realized I’d explained much in a blog entry. I have no idea whether or not you already read this.

    http://helenl.wordpress.com/2006/05/08/why-i-blog-ii/

    Comment by Helen Losse | May 20, 2006 | Reply

  5. “Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” II Timothy 2:15 (KJV)

    This verse indicates that its readers should study, be approved, be unashamed, and rightly understand the truth (of scripture). Now, there are approved methods of exegesis. And I guess, conversely unapproved methods. One of those approved methods involves comparing Bible verses (because not all verses are equally clear) to “rightly divide. . . .”
    Okay.

    But what if our study brings something else to the table—another text, so that we compare “spiritual things with spiritual,” the natural world, a creation of the living God, or even, maybe, the textbook that taught those methods of exegesis. Do we live in a vacuum? Is, say the Quran, a spiritual book? What about the Book of the Mormon? Are butterflies natural only (as opposed to spiritual) because we proof-texted them out of a soul? Says who? What if “study” includes history, geography, anthropology, mathematics, literature? What if the these turn out to be important ways to see God?

    So forget the Bible? Oh, no!!! But what if all of these various disciplines help humankind in their search for the “truth”?

    Do I believe in absolute truth? YES. And God nobody but has it. “We see in a glass darkly. . . . ” I Corinthian 13:12a A person can read the Bible from now until he/she dies and that will still be true. So we should give up? No. Not if we want to be “approved,” when we stand “face to face.” I Corinthian 13: 12 b But maybe the verse to verse comparison is only a part of the picture. Maybe it is our responsibility to know the scriptures and apply them to our ever changing world.

    Comment by Helen Losse | May 20, 2006 | Reply

  6. Hi Helen,

    My two passions are science and theology. I am one of those few that believes that God is completely natural and that it is our understanding of Him that makes him “supernatural”. Creation reveals our Lord, it and its laws. I’ll give you an example of what I mean. I believe that Jesus used completely natural processes to perform his miracles (walking on water, turning water to wine, etc.) Because of our limited understanding AND capability we perceive this natural manipulation of matter as “magical” and assign superstitious qualities to it. In all truth, I believe that once the corruptible has put on incorruption and the mortal has put on immortality, we will be like him and able to interact with God’s natural laws just as Jesus did when he walked the earth.

    This may be a bit of what you are alluding to. If so, I think we see eye to eye on a lot of these issues!

    I will look into the link you provided and get back to you.

    Enjoying our chats,

    -j

    Comment by bereans | May 20, 2006 | Reply

  7. Maybe so. And if Jesus used natural elements, it follows that there is enough to meet eveyone’s needs: enough food, enough clothing, enough love . . . . Life should be lived cooperatively, not competitively. King is right: we should work to eliminate racism, poverty, and war–here are this earth, where they create problems, (because they won’t be problems in heaven). When Jesus said, from the crooss, “It is finished,” God had done His part. Our turn has begun. Accept Jesus and His mercy and power then get cracking. There is much to do.

    Comment by Helen Losse | May 21, 2006 | Reply

  8. Helen,

    Here is an interesting perspective on needs. Let me know what you think:

    https://bereans.wordpress.com/2006/04/07/

    -j

    Comment by bereans | May 22, 2006 | Reply

  9. I think (in the context of this thread) that it’s another list of verses that attempt to stifle the conversation on what we are to do. Every Christian must be prepared to answer when asked “the reason for our hope.” But when faced with hunger on the beach, Jesus cooked fish, because that was what the disciples “needed” at that moment.

    Now the devotion to which you referred is a fine one for Christians. But it just doesn’t apply in this situation. There is a book, “Becoming a Thinking Christian” by John B. Cobb Jr., that explains that Christians often ask different questions and then argue about because they got different answers. Good sense tells a person that if you ask different questions, you get different answers. I think we are asking different questions. Thus, to debate the different answers is silly. Sometimes well-grounded Christians, who don’t want to think in alternate ways, keep saying the same thing over and over.

    Another problem I’ve encountered is that people argue about words rather than concepts. I don’t think that’s the case here. But there is a difference between a physical and a spiritual need. The order in which they are needed depends on the situation. A starving man cannot comprehend the gospel. But to imply that the physical always comes first is just plain wrong. That means we can put off the spiritual which is power behind our actions, and we are defeating ourselves. For the missionary (sent by the church to preach the gospel or by the government in the Peace Corps) the first step is self-purification. One cannot teach others (in words or actions) what he/she does not know.

    But what is the end? Is it to convert the world so we’ll all be in heaven? Or is it to be co-creators with God, making the world more nearly the one He wants us to live in? The Spirit is here. Is it time to get cracking? A lot of the answers will depend on how one interprets the various Biblical dispensations, wouldn’t you say? I say that racism, poverty and war are real problems, and Christians have the power in Christ to work toward eliminating them. We get silly when we insist that the answer to every human need is Jesus. Where is the bathroom? Jesus???

    Comment by Helen Losse | May 22, 2006 | Reply

  10. I agree, Helen!

    I think that Christians are instructed to serve one another in love, although I do believe that God is less concerned with the temporal than we are.

    Now a few thoughts:

    Racism, poverty and war are just symptoms. Not the problem (being a bit semantical here:) Sin is the symptom of Godlessness, and as I have mentioned in the past, fighting sin is a losing battle and a waste of Christians’ time. The Catholic Church, Protestant Reformers and Catholic Reformers thought they could fight sin through legislation and in the process created the largest blood bath in the history of man.

    Racism.

    Racism is hatred. People delineate along chosen lines based on a lot of factors, race, ethnicity, handicap, religion, gender, appearance, socio-economic status, (and the list could go on). I have been on the receiving end of racism, and do not like it, but recognize it as a failing of man that will be with us as long as man has his old adamic, sin-filled nature.

    Poverty

    Poverty is often a symptom of sin also (not always!). I find most American’s perception of poverty far different than the rest of the world. I have lived in villages that have less clothing than what a single “poor” person in the United States has on their back. I have witnessed the effects of starvation. I have known children who would have worked an entire day for a srawny rat or sago grubs. I beg to differ on your statement about a starving man–we lead many a starving man, woman and child to Christ. (Maslow didn’t take into consideration the power of the God:)

    War

    War (violence) has existed since Cain slew Able. It will exist until Christ returns at which time the ultimate battle will be waged. War is unstoppable–as long as there are two on earth, they will disagree and take matters into their own hands. War again is a symptom of man’s Godlessness. We are as powerless to stop the events taking place in this world as much as we can prevent Armageddon. What protest has ever stopped a war? What activism has ever prevented wars from taking place? Everything is working according to the Master’s divine plan, leading us always to 1Thessalonians 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

    Now I am not saying we can’t disagree with sin, but our weapons against it are not carnal–they are spiritual. Our concentration should be changing hearts through salvation and spiritual growth and maturity. Anything else is a bandaid and has historically lead to failure after failure.

    Once cannot make new what is corrupt, and attempts to reform our old nature are always destined to failure. We need a new nature that, when fed, will grow dominant and control the old.

    So what are we to do as Christians? We are to go into the world and preach the gospel and we are to serve one another in love. Is there anything in the scripture that gives us license to legislate that morality upon others? Not in this dispensation!

    (Interesting you mentioned it, Helen. I am working on co-authoring a book on rightly dividing the word. We take into consideration the differing dispensations, contextual issues, etc. I will also be teaching this on a somewhat formal level to my Berean class coming this fall. No doubt it will spawn some devotionals.

    Kindest regards,

    -j

    Comment by bereans | May 22, 2006 | Reply

  11. And sadly, Jack, no doubt it will leave the world just as it is.

    Comment by Helen Losse | May 22, 2006 | Reply

  12. BTW, Larry (Hallelujahs blog) had surgery this morning. Please keep him in your prayers.

    Comment by Helen Losse | May 22, 2006 | Reply

  13. Nope, Helen, it’ll get worse before it gets better! 🙂

    2Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    2Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

    2Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

    2Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

    But…

    1Peter 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

    I’ll see that Larry gets on our prayer list, Helen. Thank you for mentioning him.

    Comment by bereans | May 22, 2006 | Reply

  14. “The Day of the Lord,” said MLK, “is any day men decide to live together in peace.”

    From the cross, Jesus said, “It is finished.” But we won’t let “it (God’s part)” be over.

    Comment by Helen Losse | May 22, 2006 | Reply

  15. Amen! Unfortunately men would rather choose the sword.

    The King of Kings will put it in order:

    Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    Have a blessed day, Helen, and thanks so much for your visits!

    (I hope to get some of my class members involved with our discussions. You have much to teach!)

    Comment by bereans | May 22, 2006 | Reply

  16. Thanks Jack. I was about to tell you I thought this one had hit a stalemate. I am learning a lot from you, also. And it is heavenly to be able to disagree without calling each other names, except brother and sister! How about this as a challenge: next issue you can not quote scripture (you may paraphrase) and I will not mention MKL (but I may put his views in my own words, if I believe them)? BTW, I do see the Bible as the main guide for my life.

    Comment by Helen Losse | May 22, 2006 | Reply

  17. I know that, Helen! It is obvious to me and I am sure anyone that knows you. I don’t mind you quoting MLK at all. He was a much greater man than I and had a profound affect on multitudes. It will be hard for me not to quote scripture though-ha! I love the Word and its author. It was late in life before I realized that growth came through the hearing of the Word (faith) and it was the primary agency of the Holy Spirit. I always found that my words were inadequate–more often than not just things I had heard and never original–it was the Word that was the power. Of course if I ever come across as a know-it-all, uppity, self-rigthteous type, you let me know, ok!

    Thrilled to fellowship with a sister!

    -j

    Comment by bereans | May 23, 2006 | Reply


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